In this episode, we examine the historical mystery of the Oak Island Money Pit. Is this the site of buried treasure, or an elaborate hoax? Did the pirates of the Caribbean bury a communal bank on this small island in Nova Scotia? Those crazy crusaders that everyone is so obsessed with, the Templars, also make their first appearance on Out There. We’re surprised it didn’t happen sooner.

This episode is devoted to the legendary conspiracy theorist James Shelby Downard. We discuss Downard’s views on Freemasonry, the occult, and conspiracy theories. The episode includes the final portion of our Adam Parfrey interview, which contains biographical information about Downard that is not available in print. Enjoy!

Out There presents an interview with Adam Parfrey, author and founder of Feral House Press. We discuss Adam’s experiences in the world of underground publishing, as well as the relationship of conspiracy literature to the mass media. We also discuss the idea of America as an “Apocalypse Culture.” We wrap up by talking about the book “Lords of Chaos.” This bestselling history of Norwegian Black Metal has recently been optioned for release as a feature film, and Adam is co-writing the screenplay.

The inaugural episode of Out There, in which Raymond Wiley and Joe McFall introduce themselves and discuss what led them to give birth to this abomination.